Russell Coker: TV Control etc
In 2008 I wrote a blog post βThe Problem is Too Many Remote Controlsβ [1] about the issues of controlling a TV and related things. It recently got some comments on Mastodon so I think itβs time for an update.
The first issue I raised was βNow itβs not uncommon to have separate remote controls for the TV, VCR, DVD player, and the Cable TV box β a total of four remote controlsβ which seems to have alleviated. VCRs seem to have almost entirely gone away. The VHS Wikipedia page [2] is worth reading for everyone who hasnβt seen a VCR in operation, which I expect to be more than a few readers now and an increasing number over the next 18 years. I personally donβt have Cable TV, I own a DVD player which isnβt connected to my TV because I havenβt used it for years, I donβt own a VCR, and I donβt watch free to air TV. So I have one remote control for the TV which I use for Netflix and sometimes YouTube.
When viewing YouTube on TV there are significantly more adverts and longer adverts. I presume that is because installing an ad-blocker on my TV isnβt a viable option for me and itβs a total impossibility for most users. Generally my desktop PC is a much better platform for YouTube than my TV, it has a better quality display, is more user friendly (my previous post addressed the difficulty of getting to the data source thatβs desired), and doesnβt require entering search terms via a slow on-screen keyboard. Netflix on Linux is limited to 720p at low bitrate which is obviously of low visual quality while on the TV itβs in 4K. I have Netflix so I use that only on the TV.
In my previous post I wrote a thought experiment on how to use a cheap laptop ($500 at the time β equivalent to $777 in 2025 money according to the Reserve Bank of Australia) to control a $5000 TV ($7770 in 2025 money). Now you can buy a new 65β³ 4K TV for under $800 and a new laptop capable of 4K output for under $400 so the options are very different. For a $800 TV the manufacturer isnβt going to develop a remote control interface and Google (who develops the software the TVs run) wonβt do it because it could reduce their advertising revenue. But a typical home user could setup a cheap laptop connected to their TV via HDMI providing a familiar and efficient user interface for themselves and visitors. For a Windows laptop 4K Netflix should work and for a Linux laptop the options of a laptop for everything apart from Netflix and the TV for Netflix are bearable, two controls are worse than one but better than the 3+ that used to be common.
In my previous post I raised the issue that βitβs often the case that you donβt want to stop watching one show while trying to find anotherβ. This is still an unsolved problem and is not addressed in modern software. I am not aware of a Linux music player that supports such functionality and this would be much easier for a music player than for a video player where the screen would have to be shared between the interface for finding the next thing to play and the space for playing the end of the current one. Maybe I should file a bunch of wishlist bugs against music players asking for this.
I suggested that βcable modemβ and βcable TV boxβ could be integrated into a single device. That has not happened, in fact itβs got worse. A relative who has Foxtel has a cable modem, a cable TV box, and a Wifi AP with VOIP to provide landline phone service and to make it more exciting the latter two both have bugs that require a periodic hardware reset to fix. Hopefully cable TV will go away in the next 18 years.
Regular PCs have become less noisy in recent years. I am currently using a HP Z640 to write this post and I have HP Z840 and HP Z4G4 systems behind me running as servers and the background noise is still very low. The allegedly 8K TV [3] that I have in my lounge room has cooling fans that make more noise than those three high-end HP computers combined. Using a quiet PC like one of those HP systems to drive a TV is a very viable option and I did just that for a couple of years. Kogan has currently got a selection of refurbished Lenovo ThinkStation systems on sale for under $400, they are quiet and would do well for this, itβs also nice that Kogan is selling systems with ECC RAM at home user prices.
TV does seem to be going away. YouTube and streaming services seem to get more watching time and many people donβt use TV at all.
Since my previous post the number of streaming services has increased so torrenting offers increasing benefits as no-one wants to subscribe to 6+ services. For anyone who wants to get all the content that interests them while paying the user interface situation is much worse now than it used to be in 2008.
If you use KDE on a PC then the kconnect program allows a phone to be used to remotely control some aspects of a PC and has a good interface for pause/resume of a video and seeking 10 seconds forwards/backwards. The interface for controlling volume is hard to get to and doesnβt work on my installation. If you want to use a keyboard to start something playing and then a phone for pause control then kdeconnect is a decent option. A comment on my previous post by Michael Croes raised the issue of remote control which is now a solvable problem. Justin also wrote a comment suggesting a Nokia N800 as a remote.
Jason suggested a programmable remote, which would be a good option for a power user and a viable option for someone setting things up for their grandparents. But the amount of pain is greater than Iβm interested in as lounge room TV isnβt an important thing to me. It may appeal to more people than having a dedicated lounge room PC though.
- [1] https://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/09/15/the-problem-is-too-many-remote-controls/
- [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS
- [3] https://etbe.coker.com.au/2025/11/25/edid-and-my-8k-tv/
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